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The new Honda Civic Type R will begin testing at the Nurburgring later this year

Although it is not scheduled to be launched until 2015, company officials say that the ambitious performance targets - which include setting the fastest ever front-wheel drive lap time around the Nurburgring - mean that public testing will begin early.

Honda has confirmed that the car will have between 265 and 300bhp, suggesting power for the new Civic Type R will come from a turbocharged 2.0-litre engine.

The manufacturer claims that knowledge gleaned from its participation in the World Touring Car Championship, using a turbocharged 1.6-litre engine, will directly influence its new Type R unit.

The new Honda Civic Type R will initially be sold in Europe only, with non-European sales likely to follow if the car is well received. No prices have yet been announced.
Yes Honda, this is what we want to see. Perfect... perfectt.... PERRRFECTT


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Hopefully the actual car looks better than the concept drawings.
 

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now they need to put that 2.0L turbo in the ILX and beef up it's suspension and brakes for a performance model Acura ILX. If acura wants to move forward in the right direction to be the best in their segment, this will help them out a lot.
 

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If they replaced the suspension and breaks wed be paying $35,000+ for the Premium. Fuck that.

Built not bought... again, built, not bought. Let honda tune the platform the ilx was based on and we can take a majority of their work and implement it into our ilx instead of our community being flooded. This will help separate the tuners from your average public and keep our scene... unmolested.
 

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I do think it's cool that if a Si Owner can go from pulling .88 on lateral Gs to .95 after a suspension build that means I will notice a bigger difference than the Si owners and my car will look better and be just as well performing..

I am with the Built Not Bought movement.. I want to go from a .82 G to a .94+
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If they replaced the suspension and breaks wed be paying $35,000+ for the Premium. Fuck that.

Built not bought... again, built, not bought. Let honda tune the platform the ilx was based on and we can take a majority of their work and implement it into our ilx instead of our community being flooded. This will help separate the tuners from your average public and keep our scene... unmolested.
Built not bought is good but it's always nice having the refinement of a factory built performance spec car. If they actually do something like this they'll have to price it right.
 

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I do think it's cool that if a Si Owner can go from pulling .88 on lateral Gs to .95 after a suspension build that means I will notice a bigger difference than the Si owners and my car will look better and be just as well performing..

I am with the Built Not Bought movement.. I want to go from a .82 G to a .94+
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Stiff suspension and r compound tires. You will hit 1G lol.

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Some people like to build project cars until they are perfect then start over.
Other people like to invest in nice cars until their lease is up then trade it in for the new model.

Everyone does their own thing. Thats the beauty of the world.
 

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If they replaced the suspension and breaks wed be paying $35,000+ for the Premium. Fuck that.

Built not bought... again, built, not bought. Let honda tune the platform the ilx was based on and we can take a majority of their work and implement it into our ilx instead of our community being flooded. This will help separate the tuners from your average public and keep our scene... unmolested.

Flooded? Are you serious? 99% of tuner cars are bought. Just because you paid a company to fabricate and engineer everything for you doesn't mean you can slap a "built not bought" sticker on it. You said it yourself, take their work and implement it onto your own cars. That's not built by any means. Irony at it's best.

lastly, Type Rs; that's real Type R's are excellent cars to own and are rare. They also hold their resale value extremely well. Considering Honda's goals with this car it'll be the best they've offered in a very long time.
 

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Whoa, didn't mean to piss you off dude.
Taking a stock car and replacing it with pieces not intended by the factory verse buying a really expensive car with no intention to tune it is the idea behind 'built not bought'.
No one is expected to engineer and fabricate their own parts. You may be able to do a wire tuck, or piece together a turbo, or work for a company that forged wheels, but no one can fabricate every aspect of their car without another manufacturers help.
 

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Whoa, didn't mean to piss you off dude.
Taking a stock car and replacing it with pieces not intended by the factory verse buying a really expensive car with no intention to tune it is the idea behind 'built not bought'.
No one is expected to engineer and fabricate their own parts. You may be able to do a wire tuck, or piece together a turbo, or work for a company that forged wheels, but no one can fabricate every aspect of their car without another manufacturers help.

Not true. I've been apart of a few projects where we fabricated and engineered everything in house. Not to sound angry I just hate that whole argument. There are people out there that do everything themselves. When it comes to the Type R it's especially wrong considering it's way more than just suspension and brakes. Also American's have been racing fully custom built cars for years. Just go to your local dirt track. There's a lot of guys that build everything themselves.
 

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You have BEEN INVOLVED in a project where everything in house was build. Cools story. Maybe you and your time fabricated every last piece of metal for the chasis, every piece of plastic fabric and glass. But YOU didn't. No INDIVIDUAL does. No one on this site, or honda tech, or nwp, or zilvia, or vwvortex, or any other average tuner community can fabricate their own vehicle.

To the average builder. Taking a stock car and implementing the parts you want from aftermarket or oem companies A BUILD. BUYING a car is buying a Ford GT and bragging its faster than everything on the street. Maybe you and your team fabricate more than the average tuner, we all have our own hobbies, congrats for being more involved than we are. But that doesn't mean we dont build our cars. We just dont fabricate our own parts.
 

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You have BEEN INVOLVED in a project where everything in house was build. Cools story. Maybe you and your time fabricated every last piece of metal for the chasis, every piece of plastic fabric and glass. But YOU didn't. No INDIVIDUAL does. No one on this site, or honda tech, or nwp, or zilvia, or vwvortex, or any other average tuner community can fabricate their own vehicle.

To the average builder. Taking a stock car and implementing the parts you want from aftermarket or oem companies A BUILD. BUYING a car is buying a Ford GT and bragging its faster than everything on the street. Maybe you and your team fabricate more than the average tuner, we all have our own hobbies, congrats for being more involved than we are. But that doesn't mean we dont build our cars. We just dont fabricate our own parts.
Go to your local dirt track and say exactly what you did here. See how that goes over. ;) The fact of the matter is there are a lot of home brew cars out there racing and competing. You just have to know where to look.
 

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No one in Torrance has the "stones" to bring this to the US. The hate that was generated on the Mugen Civic just a few years ago will make a Type-R next to impossible here.
Besides the price point would have to be 30K+ and the car would have to be de-tuned for our sub-standard fuel.

Dear Honda just bring me a worthy successor to the S2000
 

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No one in Torrance has the "stones" to bring this to the US. The hate that was generated on the Mugen Civic just a few years ago will make a Type-R next to impossible here.
Besides the price point would have to be 30K+ and the car would have to be de-tuned for our sub-standard fuel.

Dear Honda just bring me a worthy successor to the S2000
There's a reason the Mugen was hated on. It came with a Type R price tag but no performance benifits. As a matter of fact most side by side comparisons had the regular 4 door Si beating the Mugen. It was hated because it was a slap in the face to the community. Everyone wanted the Type R. Honda just didn't provide it. Worst than that the outgoing JDM Type R was based off of the Canadian CSX Type S. The only thing with the 8th gen civics that Mugen did that had any clout was the Mugen Advanced RR.


Also they wont have to de-tune the Type R because European gas is comparable to US Gas. EU98 = US93
 

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Though this is no off topic..The concept behind built not bought does not mean one should fab up everything themselves. A "build" is typically referring to the factory parts you have customized, altered or replaced. Typically if you goto tracks you will see more places making custom parts because why? A lot of those cars are either shop owned or parts manufacturer sponsored. The capabilities of a parts manufacturer vs the average car owner is slightly different. Everything with cars is subjective and I don't feel you should be angered by that arguement. It's about taking pride in taking a car from what it was the day you bought it to competing with cars it never had any business with or just the personalization that makes it YOUR CAR.


However, I still don't like the look of this Civic. I think Honda pushing those realms of horsepower can do a lot for them.. Lets see how successful it is in Europe and hope it makes its way to NA
 
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