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People say they plan to add direct injection and other goodies to the motor to make more power but why no K20!
 

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It was probably for gas mileage. The R18 got better mileage then the K20a3. And probably cheaper to bore out a R18 then throw in a K20.
 

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SO are they making a coupe or no? I'm only interested if they make a coupe. If I was going to buy the 4 door I'd honestly just get a used CSX Type S. Mugen RR is the way to goo
 

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Even though it may be cheaper to make a R18 and to have better gas millage this is Honda Premium brand Acura!

Everything supposed to be nice and faster than its Lower end brother Honda. As for as im concerned the r18 is torque-less and most luxury cars have torque!
 

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SO are they making a coupe or no? I'm only interested if they make a coupe. If I was going to buy the 4 door I'd honestly just get a used CSX Type S. Mugen RR is the way to goo
This car isnt even targeted to performance, its not tailed for that, i guess CSX-S numbers weren't doing to well and thats why they axe'd the type S years ago!

Good luck getting a mugen RR, plus this is supposed to be Luxury not a rice-o-matic car.


Csx never got a coupe i doubt this will get a coupe.
 

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Like I said. If you care about the R20 being too slow you should probably get the K24 model. 6 speed transmission. LSD. It's a Civic Si with a different shell.

The K24 model will also cost im guessing at-least a 5-10 K in price being it will be label'd as some performance model aka the Type S, so in reality all it will be a a nice Civic Si with leathers seats and a much much nicer interior and luxury options. the target of this car is luxury not performance but why must they use parts from the dollar store section of Honda.



As far as an LSD and Civic Si's go.. That was failure on Honda's part the Stock Civic si is terrible..
 

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Okay guys lets look at ths from a diffrent point of view the car is designed to be sold to the Generation Y which are 30+ year olds.

From what i see most of those guys at this time really dont care all that much about performance as long as the car has some sort of zip to it, while maintaing all that Honda fuel efficency. Which is what the R18 Achive, so what Acura thought was well the motor sucks, so lets add torque to add zip to the car while keeping or trying to keep the 40MPG rating they have with the civc.

Ideally what Acura has here is a great sell, faster than a 9th civic, interior much nicer and preium feel to it, with Honda civic fuel efficeny while running on 89! what more can people as for reallyif your looking for a performance sedan i would look away from this!
 

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This car isnt even targeted to performance, its not tailed for that, i guess CSX-S numbers weren't doing to well and thats why they axe'd the type S years ago!

Good luck getting a mugen RR, plus this is supposed to be Luxury not a rice-o-matic car.


Csx never got a coupe i doubt this will get a coupe.
This car is aimed at a younger audience and the coupe version that is suppose to come out is aimed to replace the integra so I don't know what you're talking about. Performance is a big deal. If performance wasn't a big deal why the heck did they come out with a k24 version. 6 speed LSD. really?
 

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generation Y. So if I'm not turning 30 I can't buy this car?
Dec. 12 (Bloomberg) -- Honda Motor Co., seeking to revive its Acura luxury brand, is introducing a sedan intended for younger buyers unable to afford higher-end marques. It’s part of an effort to improve Acura’s image with new models.

The compact ILX is aimed at “Generation-Y” drivers who are turning 30, Honda said at a briefing in Las Vegas this month. The sedan will start “well under $30,000” when it goes on sale in early 2012, and will be shown next month at the Detroit auto show, said Vicki Poponi, assistant vice president for product planning at Honda’s U.S. unit.

“The brand is in trouble,” said Jessica Caldwell, an analyst for researcher Edmunds.com. “The consensus for many of the current models is the vehicles just look bland. They have to do something to capture peoples’ emotions with styling.”

Acura, like the Honda brand, is struggling this year from reduced production triggered by natural disasters and a model line that hasn’t drawn as much attention as those of Volkswagen AG’s Audi, Bayerische Motoren Werke AG’s BMW and Daimler AG’s Mercedes-Benz. Acura sales slid 6.7 percent through November, compared with gains of 15 percent for Audi, 12 percent for BMW and 12 percent for Mercedes’ luxury models.

With its new models Tokyo-based Honda plans to tout Acura’s lineup as “smart luxury” vehicles that combine fuel efficiency, driving performance and value for money.

Honda also will show its revamped Accord coupe in Detroit next month, the company said on its website. Both the coupe and a new sedan go on sale in late 2012, the company said, without elaborating.

Gen-Y Emphasis

Sales for Acura will rise in 2012, buoyed by the ILX and a revamped RDX compact utility vehicle that’s also to be shown in Detroit in January, said John Mendel, Honda’s executive vice president of U.S. sales.

Honda expects to sell 40,000 ILX sedans annually. Acura brand sales totaled 110,170 this year through November. Mendel declined to provide Acura’s volume goal for next year.

While baby boomers account for the majority of luxury sales, Acura is preparing for their children, who are entering the auto market, said Michael Accavitti, Honda’s vice president of U.S. marketing. The group, born since about 1980, covers as many as 80 million people, he said.

“Gen-Y consumers aspire to luxury still, but they need some help getting there,” he said. “They are projected to be the first generation in the modern era to earn less than their parents.”

Powertrain Options

The ILX will be available with three powertrain options: a 2-liter engine with an automatic transmission; a sportier 2.4- liter, manual transmission model; and a hybrid version with a 1.5-liter engine, Poponi said. The ILX will be built at Honda’s Greensburg, Indiana, plant, which makes Civic compacts.

The hybrid version will be Honda’s first gasoline-electric auto built in North America, the company said today.
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I don't know.. The TSX and TL are aimed at adults and I still see younger guys buying these cars. Same goes with the BMW 3 series and Lexus IS. People will mod this car trust me.. It's a K24.

How many guys actually buy 6 speed manual transmission 2.4L whip and leaves it stock. Especially because its a Honda it will be ripped apart by many.
 

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Okay guys lets look at ths from a diffrent point of view the car is designed to be sold to the Generation Y which are 30+ year olds.

From what i see most of those guys at this time really dont care all that much about performance as long as the car has some sort of zip to it, while maintaing all that Honda fuel efficency. Which is what the R18 Achive, so what Acura thought was well the motor sucks, so lets add torque to add zip to the car while keeping or trying to keep the 40MPG rating they have with the civc.

Ideally what Acura has here is a great sell, faster than a 9th civic, interior much nicer and preium feel to it, with Honda civic fuel efficeny while running on 89! what more can people as for reallyif your looking for a performance sedan i would look away from this!
I don't see this car being faster then a 9th gen Si.

Its going to be heavier.

It's a luxury Civic Si.

Kids who consider the Si will also consider the ILX. Yes it will be more. But mommy and daddy will pay for it so it's not going to be too big of a problem.

I'd get the ILX over a Civic Si anyday. Those Si's have some shit build quality. The ILX should have similar standards to the new TL and RDX, which I've driven and they are built much better then the Civics.
 
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